Sunday, March 3, 2013

Gay Students Say They Feel Threatened By Chick-fil-A's Presence, But School Board Votes Vendor Can Stay

A group of liberal students at the University of New Mexico tried their best to get Chick-fil-A kicked off campus because they claimed the eatery made them feel "unsafe." The students even took to theatrics, such as crying and hyperventilating, before a vote was held on whether the restaurant could stay or not- despite a majority of students having no problem with them on campus.

Gay students claimed that they even felt threatened by the mere sight of students and faculty carrying bags with the Chick-fil-A logo on them. KRQE Reports: "Chick-fil-A landed on the hot plate last week after a student group voted to kick the restaurant off campus claiming its very presence made gay students feel unsafe. 


The issue stems from the Chick-fil-A president's controversial comments on gay marriage [supporting traditional marriage] last year.

The board governing the Student Union Building took up the issue with a vote Wednesday "'Students started expressing to me they felt unsafe to go into their own campus union building,' Sen. Miquela Ortiz of the Associated Students of UNM said. 'When they said they felt uncomfortable on campus, I felt it was an issue that I should bring up.' "'Please look at this from a moral standpoint,' said Brittany Arneson, a student against having Chick-fil-A on campus. 'Look at the kids that are here that are telling you, 'I do not feel safe on this campus anymore.'" But, UNM student Tess Henderson told KRQE that her friends who work for Chick-fil-A were trained to treat each and every customer with the utmost respect, regardless of who they are. In the end, the student union board voted, 8-3, that the chicken franchise could stay at UNM. 

Protests are nothing new to the restaurant. 

Really?? They felt "threatened" they were "hyperventilating" "crying?"  What the heck were they afraid of? That the chicken being cooked was going to jump out of the fryers and attack and eat them? Or that the customers or servers were going to turn into brain eating zombies and rip them to shreds? Or are they afraid that there is a bottle of cyanide under the counter and if a gay person shows up they are going to be poisoned??  LOL!

I have yet to see any person EVER being mistreated at Chick-Fil-A.  I have seen many races come and go without a scratch on them and I have seen gays, goths, cowboys, etc; And none were harmed in any fashion or form. They all left content and with full bellies of delicious food.  (And btw, their coffee is excellent.)


What the gays hate is that the president had an OPPOSING VIEW and they couldn't stand that fact. How dare he stand for traditional marriage.  They support freedom speech as long as that speech coincides with their own.  If anyone has an opposing view, they are immediately targeted as: Haters, racists, bigots, homophobes, etc.

I found this so hilarious and ludicrous!  Good grief, how pathetic.  They need to find something more constructive to do with their time.

Funny how the media leaped on this story like vultures, when only a few gays were protesting, but totally ignored the fact that thousands of people showed up at these restaurants, NATIONWIDE, supporting the views of the president and enjoyed a delicious meal while doing it.


35 comments:

Jersey McJones said...

Well, the hypersensitivity aside, I just don't understand how "supporting tradition marriage" has anything to do with gay marriage. Seems like two completely different issues to me.

JMJ

Magpie said...

Okay Leticia I’ll start up a business where you spend every day and my business will get business by saying your marriage is a perversion, that you are sinful, and that you have no right to love who you want.

“I found this so hilarious and ludicrous!”

Of course you did. You enjoy a quiet spot of vilification. But then when your religious buddies walk into a Muslim festival with placards saying “Mohammed was a child molester” you want the police to protect them.

All of your comment above is saying is you hate gay people because they are unmanly.

You’ve never had to come out with an alternate sexuality in a world that might despise you for it. How the hell would you know what that feels like?

So I’ll present another view:
Anti-gay marriage campaigners are gutless cowards who so are insecure about their own relationships they cannot abide someone being in a relationship that’s different. That’s all it comes down to…. Moral cowardice. They won’t stand up for anyone that’s not just the same as them.

It’s gutless and it’s not even Christian.

Gutless cowards. The sort who would beat a gay to death while out-numbering him six to one.

Bob said...

I agree with Jersey on this one. My gay son (now deceased) would have had no problem with Chick-Fila. In Atlanta nobody has a problem with Chick-Fila, and we have a fairly large gay community.

Unfortunately, Chick-Fila CEO, Dan Cathey, has donated through the famiily foundation about $5 million over the years to organizations that oppose same sex marriage, much of that money going to churches and religious organizations where it is a matter of belief.

So, some manner of protesting is justifiable in my opinion. However, I don't believe Cathey is still donating money to some of the organizations that caused the controversy. I believe he has gotten smarter over time, and the recent controversy had probably served as part of that push.

My question is, why cannot we leave people alone? Why do we continue to try to legislate morality when it is absolutely futile?

I have no problem with gay marriage. The problem with the institution of marriage is unfaithful married people. I really don't believe that letting gay people marry will pollute the gene pool any more than what has been done.

Bob said...

Maggie, I believe you have gone out too far when you say,
"Anti-gay marriage campaigners are gutless cowards who so are insecure about their own relationships they cannot abide someone being in a relationship that’s different. That’s all it comes down to…. Moral cowardice."

I am sure you realize that what you said is unsupportable, and is a cheap shot. There are billions of respectable and morally courageous people in the world who oppose homosexual activities, including several billion Muslims, a group you are quick to defend.

My son was gay, and I understand many things other don't. With your words, you are poisoning the well and cannot be taken seriously.

In many ways Leticia is right.

Those kids at New Mexico behaved like children, and were undoubtedly encouraged to do so by dead-brained liberal faculty members.

The situation was hyped beyond its relative importance, and those little idiots need to find a real issue to protest, like using corn for motor fuel. That is certainly a social issue that has gone begging for attention.

Bob said...

oops, I meant to address the former comment to Magpie. Sorry for the typo. I am blaming this one on my bifocals.

Liberalmann said...

The level of compassion by those who call themselves Christians and conservative is so disappointing. Hypocrites all. And I'm betting the "crying and hyperventilating" was invented by homophobes.

Ducky's here said...

Chic-fil-a stays.

What's your beef?

christian soldier said...

have not been commenting on my favorite blogs - lately--swinging through though! : - ) been a bit under the weather--
C-CS

dmarks said...

Magpie: not sure what you meant. Do you in fact want no protection for those anti-muslilm protesters you described?

Magpie said...

Bob,

“I am sure you realize that what you said is unsupportable”

Yes, Bob, I do. The actual causes of hate are far more complex that what I said.

“In many ways Leticia is right.”

No she isn’t.
She’s mocking people who are still quite young for having an organised locus of hatred against them in their very midst. And she doesn’t just oppose gay marriage as ideological abstract she hates homosexuality in general. And she is mocking them for their emotional vulnerability with cruel glee. I cannot abide that.
Just because it seems an over-reaction to you or me it doesn’t mean their distress wasn’t genuine.

“you are poisoning the well”

Really? I’m not telling people they are sinful and hated by God, for just being who they are. And I’m not laughing at someone else’s distress. I’m just calling out cowards and bullies.

My condolences to you Bob. I have lost a son as well, though mine was not yet old enough to know the likely gender of who he might want to commit his life to.

dmarks,

“Do you in fact want no protection for those anti-Muslim protesters you described?

No. I wrote that badly. What I was getting at was the consistency displayed here at wanting to protect hate speech over tolerance.

Always On Watch said...

Gay students claimed that they even felt threatened by the mere sight of students and faculty carrying bags with the Chick-fil-A logo on them.

For pity's sake!

How ludicrous!

I guess that anyone and everything that doesn't go along with the LBGT agenda is scary, huh? Pfffft.

Liberalmann said...

I'd love to see the video of these kids having their fits and tantrums. My guess is it doesn't exist becasue it's grossly exaggerated.

Mike said...

There are videos out on the 'net, easy enough to find. I didn't see any hyperventilating - so to speak - but I did hear one young woman* speak in a trembling voice and having trouble catching her breath trying to choke back the tears.

*which I believe was the Brittany Arneson referenced.

Maybe the ones hyperventilating used an empty Chick-Fil-A bag to help them with their breathing.

I didn't see any tantrums on the video, not like those I see every time Liberalmann posts his own unhinged hatred. Magpie's rant is so full of straw, it's not worth addressing.

I'm having problems understanding how gays can feel threatened by other students carrying paper bags. How would anyone know they were gay unless they were announcing it to the world every chance they got? Most gays don't lisp when they talk or mince when they walk, so...I think it's hyperbole, nothing more.

The ONLY trouble I have with gay people is when that's how they define themselves. Almost all the gay people I've known and called friends were much more than that and in fact, that was really a very small part of who they were. I certainly don't define myself by my sexuality and that's what puzzles me when I see or hear someone say "Gay isn't about sex; it's a lifestyle." THAT'S what I find perverse...not that they're gay, but because that seems to be how they measure themselves as a person.

No, no need in being ashamed of being gay. I personally think God made (most of) them that way. What I would be ashamed of is having that being the largest part of who I am.

Shaw Kenawe said...

Hetero so-called marriage is unnatural and offensive and should be outlawed. Same sex pairings are the ONLY NATURAL unions.

I'd love to see more so-called heteros oppressed and ridiculed.

Leticia said...

Sorry all, for not responding. I was offline on Monday. And had a sick kid at 3 am. WHEW! What a morning... thank goodness, I am off on Tuesdays.

Okay....now to answering.

Jersey, exactly. It doesn't. But the people protesting are making a huge issue out of it. I, personally, know gay people that go to Chick-Fil-A all of the time. They don't understand it either.

Magpie, the president of
Chick-Fil-A NEVER said anything controversial such as you are stating. If they don't like it they can eat elsewhere. It's a freedom of choice and speech.

There are ways to witness to people about Jesus Christ without offending a person. I do condone that at all, but, if the Muslims expect protection, then why the Christians protesting? It goes both ways.

You are correct, I do not know what that feels like to live an "alternate" lifestyle; however, I do know what's it's like to be an America Latina and be treated like I was a piece of scum for being a non-white person. I did not get angry at them, because it wasn't the first time nor will it be the last time.

I also don't condone violence upon innocent victims. A TRUE Believer wouldn't NEVER harm another person in anger because a person chooses to live outside the teachings of Jehovah God.

There is nothing cowardice about wanting to pray and help them live a healthier lifestyle. I had a friend die from AIDS.

Not that this is any of your business, but I have several gay friends, and they know where I stand biblically. So, don't put me in your box of "hateful" people because I believe homosexuality is unhealthy, unnatural, and that I would love see them set free from it. The people protesting are angry, bitter people that need help.

Bob said...

Magpie,

Thank you for your reply. I don't think you are calling out a bully or a coward with Leticia. In fact you come across as the intolerant bully.

Even though I don't agree with Leticia on some things, her statements in her post are factually accurate. You chose to connote meaning she might not have intended. Where is she bullying anybody?

I believe your opinions would carry more weight without the invective added.

Leticia said...

Bob, I think those that were protesting have deeper issues, or they were paid to do this. I don't believe they were doing anyone any good by crying, hyperventilating etc. It put a bad name on good people. They made themselves look foolish. And like I told Jersey, I have gay friends that eat there all of the time. And I even frequent a comic book store ran by a gay man, who's pretty cool. *sigh*

Lib, sorry but this story came from the MSN, which was why I posted it. Liberals hate the Christian media and FOX News. So, you should be relieved, this was not made up. Look up the footage.

Ducky, no beef, just chicken. :) Sorry, that reminded of that old lady from the Wendy's commercials, "Where's the Beef?!"

Chick-fil-A doesn't have a beef with anyone. They serve everyone equally and respectfully.

Magpie, maturity has NOTHING to do with seeing someone with a bag food in their hand and feel threatened?? Really? It is ludicrous. Now if people were walking around with loaded guns at the restaurant then, yeah, be concerned.

This was just a show to draw attention. That's all. They embarrassed themselves.

Shaw, then you haven't been paying close attention. Christians are being murdered for their beliefs in Islam nations, and even here in the states. Get real. Please.

Right Truth said...

They felt threatened, by a chicken sandwich, OMG. And they will probably be Obama/liberal voters too.

Debbie
Right Truth
http://www.righttrutht.typepad.com

Jersey McJones said...

Leticia,

These students just wanted attention, and you gave it to them. I think if the right paid less attention to other people's private lives, those other people would complain less, and the right would have fewer complainers to complain about. Cycle broken.

I'm sorry you don't like the way they complain, in this instance, but better that than they attack someone else as they've been attacked, and are still attacked to this day.

Remember, it's the right wing telling gays how they can manage their lives, not the other way around.

You righties are the antagonists here no matter how you look at it.

JMJ

Magpie said...

“don't put me in your box of "hateful" people because I believe homosexuality is unhealthy, unnatural, and that I would love see them set free from it”

You don’t even see the irony in what you just said do you, Leticia?
THAT is hate speech. And wrong. You’ve just given the evidence of everything I said.
Those attitudes of yours get people beaten to death, belittle them to suicidal anxiety.

“In fact you come across as the intolerant bully.”

Yeah Bob, I don’t tolerate people who go round calling people unhealthy and unnatural purely for being gay.
And I bully people by telling them they are wrong. I’m quite vicious like that. Think about it.

Leticia said...

Jersey, of course I would give attention to this ridiculous idiocy. They are making asses of themselves. What good are they doing? Not a darn thing, except hurting their "cause." They make it our business when they go in public and ridicule ANYONE that disagrees with their lifestyle.

You disagree with my assessment and immediately brand me a "rightie" because I am standing up for Chick-fil-A. So be it.

They are the ones who want the spotlight and expect everyone to feel pity and sorry for them, because they are so "oppressed." It's their fault. Let them live with the consequences of their actions.

Like normal adults do. If you can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen.

Magpie, you call "hate speech" I call it truth. And as God as my witness, it is the truth.

You tell me how being gay is healthy?

Bob said...

Magpie said, "... Think about it. "

I did, and I identified that Leticia only expressed her belief. I don't totally agree with her, but she said nothing hateful about gay people.

Magpie is the one talking hate, here.

Leticia said...

Bob, thank you, that really means a lot to me, coming from you. :)

Z said...

We all have every right to feel as we do. Much of it's based on religious teachings and why does that not work for Christians as well as it does for other faiths?

I had a gay uncle who lived a complete, happy life with his lover; he felt marriage was between members of the opposite sex and, as a man of faith, he understood that; it's worked for thousands of years, broken marriages or no broken marriages.

That anybody would feel threatened like these college kids do by another opinion is as silly as dissing those who they say are threatening. It's a lie that they're threatened. And stupid. TODAY? Really? They think something's going to happen to them?

Gay Americans would come a long way without fishnet stockings and crying foul every time they feel the slightest bit offended or threatened. THREATENED BY A CHICKEN CONCERN?

stupid; don't eat there if you feel threatened.
issue over.

Jersey McJones said...

Leticia,

"They make it our business when they go in public and ridicule ANYONE that disagrees with their lifestyle."

That's not true.

They go after people they believe are going after them.

Again, remember, you guys are the ones telling them how to live, and not the other way around.

And I don't care at all about that chicken chain.

"It's their fault."

What's their fault? That they're gay?

"If you can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen."

Who's kitchen? How are they in your kitchen?

What's your problem with gay people?

It's weird.

JMJ

Magpie said...

"Magpie is the one talking hate, here."

By... saying it's wrong to try and make people feel sick and unclean and pathetic just for being different... No, Bob. Doesn't fly.

Leticia, your faith is your business, not the gay community's.

Maybe deference to your faith is what stops people challenging you as often as they should. Or maybe it's just politeness. Either way it's not you or your faith that I'm coming for, it's the destructive attitude I take issue with because - as I have said a few times now - people can be murdered for those attitudes.

There have always been gay and bisexual people. There will always BE gay and bisexual people. Many are perfectly happy. Others are hurt by things you choose to believe. It's not a prison. It's not an illness. It's just a difference.
That's not 'my belief'. It's just a fact.

Anonymous said...


Why do people believe ANYTHING they get from The Daily Caller, or the vomitous Breitbart.crap?

Teresa said...

Magpie and other liberals have trouble separating the thing you believe to be sinful from the actual person. Do you believe that you hate the alcoholic when you stand up against the disease and try and get help for them? With homosexuals and gay marriage it is the same thing.

Progressives are trumpeting something as equal that isn't equal. Gay couples are not equal to heterosexual couples. Progressives are misinformed on this issue. The ones who they call "haters" are standing up for decency, morality, the family unit, and traditional values. Yes, there has been a breakdown of the family with broken marriages, thanks to the liberal radical social engineering agenda. Gay marriage will only aid in the further breakdown of marriages and the family unit in our society.

Leticia said...

Z, excellent point. It's a few unhinged gay people that make the rest of them look bad. I have a few gay friends and none of them behave like that. In fact, it embarrasses them. One of my friends, as I stated, before actually supports Chick-fil-A and takes her lover and son there all of the time.

Magpie, I can't believe honestly believe that someone seeing a Chick-fil-A restaurant would cause them to cry uncontrollably, hyperventilate and feel threatened by it.

If they don't like it, don't eat there, simple as that. Let others enjoy the great service, hospitality and good food without some person getting hysterical by it. It's food. They need to get a life.

Not ONCE did the president put down gays. He simply stated he supported traditional marriage. If gays are offended and threatened by that, they are the ones with a problem not the rest of society.

Yes, gays and bisexuals have been injured or killed because of their choice of lifestyle, but why stop there? Goths have been brutally beaten and killed because of their choice of clothing, or Christians due to their faith, or what about Blacks and Latinos and Jews? It's not just gay people.

They just don't make a scene and make fools of themselves to make a point. It defeats the purpose.

Teresa, my dear friend, AMEN!!

Jersey McJones said...

Teresa, we just don't care what you think is sinful or not. You guys, on the other hand, want to shove your morality down everyone throats.

You have zero evidence gay marriage would break down straight marriage.

None. Just your silly religious garbage.

JMJ

Teresa said...

Jersey,

Your the ones who are demanding that we not only tolerate but approve of homosexuals, their sexual acts, and their lifestyles - gay marriage.

You speak out in favor of gay marriage which forces society, all of society, including people who disagree with that lifestyle to recognize it as legitimate and good for society. That is forcing your form of morality (moral relativism) on the rest of us.

As far as I'm concerned gay couples can live together, can have access to each others health insurance and visits at the hospital but when it comes to forcing your beliefs on me, no way am I going to be forced to approve of something that I don't.

You are expressing anti-religious bigotry and intolerant and show utter disrespect for having a different point of view. But that's what liberals do.

Teresa said...

"You are expressing anti-religious bigotry and intolerant and show utter disrespect for having a different point of view. But that's what liberals do. "

Should be "for people who have a different point of view than you hold."

Magpie said...

“Do you believe that you hate the alcoholic when you stand up against the disease and try and get help for them? With homosexuals and gay marriage it is the same thing.”

Utter false equivalence. Homosexuality is not separable from the person any more than heterosexuality.
I recommend you don’t tell a homosexual friend their nature and feelings of love are a “disease”.
That might be construed as hate.
Because it is.

“Gay couples are not equal to heterosexual couples”

It’s love and commitment, and it IS equal. It is their human right.

“Gay marriage will only aid in the further breakdown of marriages and the family unit in our society”.

No evidence of that at all.
It isn’t just your society either. It’s their society too. Now focus on your own relationships and leave other people in peace.

“Goths have been brutally beaten and killed because of their choice of clothing, or Christians due to their faith, or what about Blacks and Latinos and Jews? It's not just gay people.”

SO…follow that thought where it goes, Leticia…
You would be fine with a business that made money by attracting people who want to limit the human rights of Latinos, Christians, Blacks…?
I would not, Leticia. I would defend your rights.

Can someone apart from Jersey and me speak for sense and humanity here?

Where are all the conservatives with their alleged regard for freedom and life? That was all just words, was it? When it comes down to the crunch you really don’t have the balls to stand up for those ideals? Somehow that would not surprise me.
Have you all just decided to stay out of this one because you’re worried about your Right-wing cred? Or… do you also share the above idea that homosexuality is a “disease” to be exterminated ?

Teresa said...

People have control over their actions and sexuality. So, yes, there is an equivalence between alcoholics and homosexuals. Do you honestly think people have no control over their actions? What????

I am NOT talking about love and commitment. Any person can express love and commitment to one another - brothers, sisters, Aunts, nieces, Grandmas. These people don't marry one another. It is about biology, what is best for the family unit. If you think that homosexual couples and heterosexual couples are the same biologically and have the same abilities you really do need to check a biology book. How absurd! You are treating two different types of people as if they were the same. Not right. That's like treating two Cardinals as if they were the same as two Orioles.

Magpie said...

There is no equivalence between alcoholism and homosexuality and the very comparison is prejudiced because of the pejorative assumption of illness.

Ever have a crush on a boy in school Teresa?

Did you decide “well today I will choose to be attracted to boys not girls”?
People who are same sex oriented do not wake up one morning and decide to be this or that, they will be sexually attracted to one or the other or both and will come to notice this as they become adults.

Your whole crusade against homosexuality – which by the way is futile and destructive – is based on fear. You fear that somehow your society (which is actually also theirs) will come crashing down because you also fear that homosexuality is some sort of contagious disease.

So if your basis for this quite hateful idea is whether a couple can have children or not….

Then what about heterosexual couples who for one reason or another cannot have children? Are you going to demand they divorce and head to the singles bar in search of procreative partner?

Or… what about heterosexual couples who do not want children? Can I assume you will offer them a couple of years to procreate, failure to comply resulting in the forced termination of their marriage?