Tuesday, November 15, 2011

PolitiChicks vs The View

 Finally, Conservative Americans will have an alternative to those other liberal-based talk shows in which women scream over each other and call Conservatives vile names.
The PolitiChicks are former Saturday Night Live alumni and Tea Party favorite Victoria Jackson, pro-life speaker and activist Jennique Stewart, editor and activist Jennie Jones and Ann-Marie Murrell, columnist and host of The Patriot Update video show.
Some of the topics covered in their first episodes will be illegal immigration, gay marriage, abortion and the Occupy movement. Each of the women have their own strong points of view on each of the subjects and aren’t afraid to speak up–or sing up, as Victoria Jackson tends to do throughout the episodes. In the first episode of PolitiChicks, the ladies discuss gay marriage, Islam and the intolerance of the left toward anyone who disagrees with them.
I am quite happy with this new talk show.  And I also noticed that these awesome conservative women respond to the comments posted on their website.  Someone basically said they could do without the singing from Victoria, and she responded!
I will definitely tune in.
Here is a the first episode.  Love it!!

What are your thoughts?  And for the record, I absolutely adore Victoria Jackson, she's adorable.


Jersey McJones said...

I don't regularly watch The View (I've caught a few minutes over the years, but have read about it), though I suppose it's an interesting show. I suppose this new conservative version would be interesting as well.

But that's about it... Eh.

And as if these 'issues' that come up on these sorts of shows aren't banal and insipid enough, this new conservative version features the ever-so-important 'issues' of "illegal immigration, gay marriage, abortion and the Occupy movement." Lions and Tigers and Bears! Oh My! And all this is treated with quick banter and soundbites and jokes.

For Christ's sake! Doesn't anyone want to seriously tackle a serious issue for a change!

Yet another among the "57 channels and nothing on."


Always On Watch said...

grohWow. This is good news, indeed.

D Charles QC said...

Victoria Jackson is a great commedian but I do not support her politics at all and find it border-line hypocrit in some areas. Her statements as a rep from Florida have been torn to pieces by neutral fact-checkers including polifact. Her commentary on WND is typical of that border-line hate-mag that not only search for contravery and will make it up if there isn't any but will alter facts to do so.

If Victoria Jackson wishes to be considered anything other than just a "funny woman" then she has to avoid selling out for popularism and debate with the big guns, not the fringe-guns.

Personally I think a panel show that is one-sided politically only results in self-support and ultimately will burn itself out.

MK said...

I like the idea, but they need to be a bit more professional and their facts need to be 100% right, not mostly right. I'd also like a token liberal to be on the show, just like liberals have a token conservative.

Leticia said...

Jersey, I have never seen the view just a few tid-bits here and there. And there used to be some great programming, but now it is all crap, excuse my language. If you like sci-fi, I highly recommend Falling Skies and Alphas, Eureka is going to have one more season and then that's it.

AOW, it should be good. And Victoria Jackson is such a hoot.

DCC, The View is very one-sided in their leftist and liberal views. I think it is only fair that conservative women get the opportunity to share their views.

Victoria Jackson is a comedienne and she puts humor with serious issues to lighten the mood. She's great!

MK, absolutely, I have no problem with having a liberal on the set. Would make for an awesome debate.

Most Rev. Gregori said...

What a breath of fresh air the "POLITICHICKS" are. What channel are they on?

Lisa said...

At least they don't sound like That Hen House over at The View

Leticia said...

Abouna, unfortunately, it is not on tv, but here is the link: you can watch it online. http://www.politichicks.tv/

Lisa, right! I wish Fox News would pick it up.

dmarks said...

Jersey said: "his new conservative version features the ever-so-important 'issues' of..."

Not sure why you had a mocking quote around 'issues'. The issues discussed are very significant ones.

You might have had a reason to mock "issues" if they issues were Lindsey Lohan's dad, the Beiber paternity situation, or Michael Jackson's doctor.

But no, the 4 issues you mocked are major and significant ones.

dmarks said...

And as for designating things "sound bites", I've always found this to be useless as a pejorative.

After all, brevity is the source of wit (ouch... a short saying, must be another "Sound bite!"

I suggest you look into the sound bites of Will Rogers and Mark Twain.

Mark Twain himself actually talked about the sound bite concept, saying it is "a minimum of sound to a maximum of sense."

Yes, we need a lot more sound bites, and a lot less lengthy "stuff".. mere filler... that is lengthy just for the hell of it.

A show with quick banter and sound bites that is just what serious issues need.

And I will close this comment with another sound bite, that is more powerful than most long "serious" speeches present by politicians since:

"And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you - ask what you can do for your country" - JFK.

WomanHonorThyself said...

its entertaining thats for dang sure Letic..we shall see!!

Silverfiddle said...

If they're trying to be a counterweight to The View, they need to throw on a few more tons, and they need bullhorns. Really loud bullhorns

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liberaldude said...

Great! You have your own version of The View, only with loony, stupid and hateful has beens. So much stupidity concentrated in on place!

Anti-gay, Anti-Muslim, Anti-intellect. The trifecta for wingnuts. Lol!

Leticia said...

Spot-on, Dmarks.

Angel, I will tune in. I think it will be enlightening and entertaining.

Liberal, yeah, you would say that. Why am I not surprised.

christian soldier said...

so 'swiping' this-
great to see women speak the truth - un hampered by PC garbage!!!
when is it on- and where ?


jez said...

'Mark Twain himself actually talked about the sound bite concept, saying it is "a minimum of sound to a maximum of sense."'

I'm a fan of brevity too, but it's no argument against sophistication. I agree with Einstein that we should seek to "make things as simple as possible, but no simpler."
ie, do not forfeit any explanatory power for gains in simplicity, elegance, or brevity.

And this is what the sound-bite always has to do. They are at best a first approximation, at worst they are outright wrong, and survive exclusively because they are short and appealing.
And this is why it's become a pejorative, because people mourn for the loss of nuance, and are frustrated by the advertiser's preoccupation with accessible appeal over substantial analysis. It's no substitute.

Ingenjören said...

"DCC, The View is very one-sided in their leftist and liberal views. I think it is only fair that conservative women get the opportunity to share their views. "

While this statement is correct, it does not make this insipid drivel meaningful. Snopes run by Soros? How stupid do they think we are? When did being anti-fact and anti-factchecking become a conservative standpoint? And when did rouge conservatives start embracing that standpoint?

jez said...

genuine quote from the embedded video:
"all muslims aren't terrorists, but all terrorists are muslims. That's just a fact."

I say genuine, because it needs clarifying: it looks like something I've made up to take the piss out of it with, but it isn't, they really said that.

Leticia, how is it you aren't deeply insulted by the contempt this video shows to your intelligence?

PS the lady with the uke needs to back off the mic a little bit.

Leticia said...

Ingen and Jez, I think, they were probably trying to add a little bit of this and that, it's just a different kind of show. I will tune it just because Victoria Jackson is on it, she is a great comedienne and conservative. We all need a comic relief, even on a conservative show.

I don't take it all as gospel. That would be insane, but I can agree to disagree.

Carol, it's on the net here is the link: http://www.politichicks.tv/

dmarks said...

Liberal said: "Great! You have your own version of The View, only with loony, stupid and hateful has beens"

I thought that was what the View already had.

By the way, great Hitler salute you have as your icon.

Go ahead. I'm waiting for you to declare again that I have been "pwned" by supposed points made in a comment that never existed.

jez said...

"this and that" being "dangerous" and "lies", presumably.

cube said...

I'll reserve judgement until I watch the show.

Ducky's here said...

Victoria Jackson? There aren't enough dog biscuits to pay that bowser.

Ducky's here said...

Leticia, post up episode 2. Victoria Jackson claims there]s a smiley face on Obama's birth certificate.

I didn't know anyone could get that far into the ozone.

dmarks said...

And, one of Ducky's two comments is a sexist insult. Really invalid, and it blows any any credibility his 2nd comment might have started to get.

As for me, when someone starts to bash anyone for sexist, racist, or other such reasons, it makes me automatically defend the victim. No matter what side of the political aisle they are on.

So, add this to Jersey liking to call gay people "Fa**ots". Ducky likes to bash women as dogs.

Anonymous said...

One is in danger of having their IQ lowered by exposure to this show.

Malcolm said...

Wow! "PolitiChicks" is so bad, it doesn't even meet the low standards of the average show on Fox "News". Regardless of one's political viewpoint, I don't see how anyone can take this show seriously. It has all the hallmarks of the typical conservative opinion show:

Lies that the average 8 year old could debunk in a matter of minutes (Snopes is owned by George Soros and all terrorists are Muslims for starters)

Victimhood (liberals dominate the media and us poor conservatives can't get our voices heard)

Projection/hypocrisy (Accusing the left of intolerance, while at the same time making Islamaphobic comments)

"PolitiChicks" has some traces of entertainment, because it did make me laugh. However, much of the humor wasn't intentional. If Victoria Jackson was doing a parody of someone on the right-wing fringe, this would be brilliant satire. Sadly, she's the genuine article. As for Victoria's co-hosts, the two women to her left were OK. However, the brunette seemed to be sleepwalking through the segment. If she doesn't bring her energy level up, maybe they could replace her with a token liberal as a counterbalance to all the B.S.

Thanks for turning me on to "PolitiChicks". I just finished watching episode 2 ... pure nonsense!

Leticia said...

Malcolm, you're welcome, I guess. I think it's a good show. And I like what they talk about.

Malcolm said...

Leticia: Besides the topics covered and the fact that the show is conservative, what do you like about "PolitiChicks"? I ask because I'm trying to understand how any conservative can call this a credible program.

I'm not bashing "PolitiChicks" because it's conservative. If there was a liberal program in which the host(s) claimed the entire Tea Party wants to see blacks hanging from a tree and that former President George W. Bush was responsible for 9/11, I wouldn't have anything to do with it. I couldn't care less if the hosts were liberal, that's a show not to be taken seriously.

Although I obviously disagreed with their views, there was nothing wrong with the topics covered in the first episode of "PolitiChicks". However, episode 2 was all about President Obama's citizenship. Outside of the right-wing fringe, the birther nonsense has already been settled! Victoria Jackson claimed there was a smiley face on the president's birth certificate and she wasn't kidding when she said it! Does that sound rational to you?

I'll probably continue to watch "PolitiChicks". However, I view it as I would an SNL skit and not a credible political program. If I were a conservative, I'd be embarrassed because it doesn't make the right look good at all.

Leticia said...

Malcolm, I enjoy watching it, but could do without the "song" interruption, that kind of got on my nerves. However, I digress, I think they have some valid points and the way they talk and discuss things just reminds me of how ladies tend to chatter amongst themselves, it's refreshing. What I also like about the show is that I have no worries about being shocked with profanity or bashing of God or Christianity.

It's fun.

D Charles QC said...

I continue to express three views on this.

The first is that any such show without a balanced number of views never works - this does not and unfortunately smells of a Fox agenda program rather than sincere quality.

The second is my agreement with one comment by Malcom - that they even mentioned the "citizenship" subject of Obama is simply pathetic and very much agenda driven.

The third point is, as I have mentioned before in the thread, Victoria Jackson is a very funny woman, a good commedian BUT her politics has turned her credibility into a different type of joke.

jez said...

This show makes more sense if you start with the assumption that it is a send-up.

Leticia said...

DC, whether it is serious or not, I still like it. Just take it as it is. If you recall The View are pretty biased and can be downright predatory with conservatives on their show.

Jez, yeah, I can agree with that.

jez said...

If only it had some better jokes. ;)

Leticia said...

Jez, maybe they will work on it.

Malcolm said...

Leticia: Help me out. Your post and various comments you've made in the thread lead me to believe you think "PolitiChicks" serves as a credible alternative to liberal-based talks shows. However, in one of your replies to "Jez", you agreed with their statement that the show makes more sense if it's viewed as a send-up. Do you think it's a serious program or a send-up of conservatism? It can't be both.

By the way, have you ever watched the PBS program "To the Contrary with Bonnie Erbé"? In case you haven't, the show features Erbé as the moderator along with four other women of various political viewpoints. I only discovered it recently, but find it to be well-done and informative. If you have seen it, I'd love to hear your thoughts about it.